In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
People makes jokes about Boomers and the Day of the Pillow, but it is based on something quite serious. Steve Sailer is often very perceptive on some issues and he’s particularly good at calling out the over the top anti-white narratives in the media, and even good at spotting the race hoaxes. But two recent articles, “The Epistemology of 9/11 Narratives” and “Were the Heroes of Flight 93 “Random” as George W. Bush Said?”, Sailer shows his Boomerism by his complete inability to abandon his Television brainwashing.
Few people stress this point enough. Cinema, radio, and television are technological advances. This technology is barely a century old. Humans cognition can barely distinguish between reality and mass electronic media. In the early days of cinema, housewives would write letters to the characters, believing they had a personal relationship to the actors they saw on the screen. Men have a physiological reaction, an erection, to pornography, which is nothing but pixels on a screen. People’s heart rates can increase depending on what they see on the screen.
An epistemological point I try to make is that there really isn’t all that much Fake News in terms of outright hoaxes in the press. Instead, there is an intractably vast abundance of news, countless facts which people can’t be expected to remember unless it fits into a well-worn narrative, usually about who or what is Good and who or what is bad.
Of course, Sailer is wrong. There is constant promotion of hoaxes in the media. The New York Times has published outright hoaxes on a regular basis for its entire history, probably a really big one every year. The Intercept published an interview with “Scott Roof, the cousin of murderer Dylann Roof,” a person who did not exist. TV news vans often carry yellow emergency tape to put behind their news anchors to make it seem like they are standing in front of official police tape so they seem closer to some emergency. TV news was using “green screens” to make it seem their anchors were on location when they were in fact in the studio – this is never disclosed to the viewer. Stock photos are used on a regular basis and often not labeled as such. ABC used a video of a gun show and claimed it was video from a Syrian firefight. The news report that “Assad gassed his own people” was a hoax, and literal actors were used to portray various characters in Syria. TV News infamously edited George Zimmerman’s phone calls to the police and often change the tone of people’s skin color to push certain racial narratives. Youtube is full of compilations of news anchors doing silly stunts, like standing in puddles to make flooding seem more widespread.
Sailer knows all of this, but he downplays it, because he has spent his entire life watching television and cinema, listening to radio, and reading newspapers. He is fine with calling out media bias, but he cannot admit to himself that his entire world view, even his self-conception, is largely based on regular media hoaxes. Who wants to believe they have been regularly fooled for his entire life?
The astonishing coordination of the entire mass media in regards to the recent elections went well beyond “media bias.” Boomer conservatives, like Steve Sailer, always complain about “liberal bias.” But if that were so, explain the pro-Israel bias and the complete lack of coverage of the Palestinian struggle? If the media were actually full of “bleeding heart liberals” why wouldn’t the Palestinians be the victim-du-jour for the last twenty years?
Consider this description from a former journalist:
I worked in an international newsroom for a decade, and it was intriguing to observe the evolution of the daily news. Virtually everyone with a writer/journalist/investigative reporter designation in the room was Jewish. There was a rotation of daily editors who had the ultimate authority to determine story angles, headlines, and final go-ahead to print on their assigned day at the helm, and the vast majority of daily editors were Jewish. The Editor-In-Chief over the daily editors was Jewish.
During the course of an average day there was a constant octopus-like info frenzy with our people reaching out to CNN, NBC, New York Times, Wash Post, etc, and vice-versa. Yet in spite of being different–and supposedly competing–media companies, it was just one vast inter-locked network that determined the daily narrative, what I have come to regard as the ‘Jewish media cartel’ because for the most part it was very left, decidedly liberal, openly anti-Christian and always blatantly pro-Jewish.
Digressing from the editorial narrative would get you ushered out the door pretty quickly, and then only after you signed the most draconian nondisclosure agreement in order to get your severance.
When you have an entire media monoculture that spans all major media corporations, the coordination is second nature; the ingroup and the outgroup are based on quite solid racial, ethnic, and social factors. And this particular culture is well known for an instrumental approach to truth.
George W. Bush recently compared “domestic extremists” to the perpetrators of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York and Washington DC. When he mentioned those who have a “determination to befoul national symbols” he didn’t mean Antifa and the BLM protesters who spent the summer of 2020 burning American flags and attacking historical statues – quite like the Taliban – Bush means the people who voted for Donald Trump instead of his brother, Jeb Bush, and the protesters at the Capitol on January 6, 2001.
If the media has a “liberal bias” explain the rehabilitation of former President George W. Bush; for that matter, his lionization in the media between 2001 and 2005?
Quite often it is not the media behind the hoax, they simply put their power behind selling the hoax to the public. The Gulf of Tonkin didn’t actually happen, nevertheless, the media never once let on. The media to this day continues to lie about the sinking of the USS Liberty, selling the hoax that it was sunk by accident.
From 2001 to 2015, the FBI created fake “terror threats” and the media reported them without the slightest bit of “fact-checking.” During the days of 9/11, an Israeli Jew named Joseph Cohen was covered in the media for years as “Yousef Mohamid Al-Khattab,” making constant terrorist threats. It took five years for the media to stop taking his hoax at face value and acknowledge he was actually “a Jew” and point out he had received training in Israel. A hoax, meant to slander Muslim people in the interests of Israel.
Sailer, and his entire cohort of Boomer conservatives, have a very high opinion of their own skepticism, but it’s a complete false self-conception. Sailer, and the Boomer conservatives, are even more brainwashed than the stereotypical green haired liberal cat lady, and their own self-conception as “hard headed skeptical realists” make it even easier for the mass electronic media to fool them.
They fail to understand even basic physics, the kind of thing that high schoolers are typically educated in.
Now the full weight of the War On Terror, which most Boomer conservatives heartily endorsed, is fully targeted against the white American population. The Boomer conservatives will whine impotently about “liberal bias” but will believe every single hoax created by the FBI and reported uncritically by the media. Sailer, and his Boomer conservatives, fell for every hoax aspect of the current pandemic, showing off their statistical skills without once considering the source of their numbers, because to do so would be to engage in “conspiracy theories.” It is interesting that the very term, “conspiracy theory,” was itself a propaganda term coined by CIA to smear critics of the Warren Commission.
The Boomer conservatives gave us George W. Bush. They swallowed the 9/11 hoax without the slightest hesitation. Most of them believed the “Saddam’s WMD” hoax. A significant number of Boomer conservatives believed the “Obama’s Secret Muslim Birth Certificate” hoax, even as Boomer conservative “Z-Man” now tries to pretend that was merely “trolling.” It was not – many Boomer conservatives were absolutely convinced that Obama was a “secret Muslim” with a fake birth certificate and that he was a member of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. The Z-Man continues to lie to his audience, claiming that Trump was “trolling” Obama about the birth certificate for fun, but in fact Trump was pipelining those talking points directly from the Israeli propagandists Orly Taitz. It was not “trolling,” it was propaganda meant to prevent Obama from making peace with Iran, which Israel opposed. Perhaps Z-Man is now embarrassed that he fell for such a transparent hoax, but we have to set the record straight about what the Boomer conservatives actually did.
The TV Generation has no connection to reality at all; in fact, they believe the TV more than they believe their own eyes. They will deny what they themselves observe if the television says otherwise. It was actually rather amusing when Boomer conservatives would mock younger people for “believing what they read on the Internet” – the Boomer conservatives simply had no idea of how ironic that statement was.
The typical Boomer conservative line has always been that the news media was “competitive” and thus cover ups couldn’t happen because each company, ABC, CBS, and NBC were each trying to “one up” each other to get a “scoop.” The reality was collusion, not just on an institutional level, but on a human level, considering that all mass media in the United States is completely dominated by one highly organized and ethnocentric group.
It is extremely important to understand that as the Boomers die off, white Americans will be a minority. That is inevitable, but it is Boomer conservatism, an entire generation brainwashed to believe up is down and black is white, whose intransigence is not just preventing us from dealing with this new situation and planning accordingly, but interfering with even developing the consciousness needed to survive the future reality.
It’s quite obvious that President Joe Biden has dementia. If anyone has ever dealt with an aging parent suffering from dementia, you know that eventually you have to simply ignore what they say, because their words are no longer coherent. In the case of American Boomer conservatives, we are dealing with people who essentially grew up in a cult – the cult of Hollywood Mass Electronic Media – and took the “News” show as “fact” instead of “fiction.” Now, as they decline cognitively, their words will begin to make even less sense.
What we need to do is to organize – and organizing a communications and information infrastructure outside of the control of the mass electronic media system is job number one.
And it would make sense to absolutely exclude Boomers and conservatives from this new information infrastructure, as there is – and always has been – far too much noise, and not enough signal, in their own thought processes, precisely because they have been brainwashed by mass electronic media for their entire lives.
It is long past the time to take away Grandpa’s car keys, and long past the time to stop inviting him to the planning meetings. Our very survival now depends on this. As you can see, what the Boomers and their followers did to the Afghans, the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Libyans, the Lebanese, the Yemenis – now they are going to do that to us. To the extent they are even aware of what is happening, you can be assured – 100% certain – that the Boomer conservatives will cheer just as loudly as we are killed and tortured as they did when the Arabs and Afghans were.
In their Trance and Treatment the psychologists Spiegel (<pere) and Spiegel (<fils) tell us that persons of Dionysiac character are most vulnerable to hypnosis.Television is an hypnotic agent.
All the television watcher needs to pay for, is the recieving set. After trhat, any content recieved is free of charge, “Anything free is worth what you pay for it.”–Hewinlein. Television networks selkl to advertisers blocks of hypnotized or semi-hypnotized potential consumers of the products thereon advertized.
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@robertpinkerton
Absolutely, you can measure a change in brain wave activity when someone is watching TV or cinema, and the viewer enters a state similar to dreaming. Hypnosis is exactly what it is.
One sign of the times is that people are starting to realize that the “political consensus” of the previous generations was simply manufactured by the media, the “mainstream” was simply the narrow spectrum of opinions allowed on the TV Evening News.
Now that the Internet media has fractured that consensus and introduced an infinitely diverse spectrum of opinions, we can see the establishment desperate over the “lack of social cohesion.”
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To channel my inner Bob:
“TV is like a funhouse mirror, a distorted upside-down view of reality.”
It’s also funny that we essentially locked down society to protect said boomers, the generation that holds more collective wealth than any other, the generation that enjoyed the highest living standard out of any generation before or after, the generation which went on most world trips and most cruises, bought the most houses and cars, and yet they now demand one last hooray on top of that? I mean i don’t have a 401k, not even a .45, yet i have to stay in? That’s not how i understand solidarity.
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@guest
Ironically, the Boomer conservatives acted exactly how a Marxist would have predicted they would act, as they are a petite bourgeois class.
The petite bourgeoisie is a class comprised of “semi-autonomous peasantry and small-scale merchants whose politico-economic ideological stance in times of socioeconomic stability is determined by reflecting that of a haute (“high”) bourgeoisie with which the petite bourgeoisie seeks to identify itself and whose bourgeois morality it strives to imitate.”
99% of Boomers were never capitalists, they were workers, who had to exchange their labor for money. They were convinced that their savings were actually investment capital, and their 401ks and even IRAs were enough to convince them they were, in fact, “investors” not “savers.” It has been mathematically demonstrated since the 1970’s that individual investors cannot beat index funds, which makes the Boomer conservative pretense of being “investors” even more comical. They were workers who saved. They also had the very best of the Welfare State working for them, which they, starting under Reagan, did their best to destroy for their children and grandchildren. They enjoyed a modest increase in their savings from the high financial returns due to deindustrialization, shipping jobs to China, essentially selling out the future of their children and grandchildren for one more vacation cruise.
Consider too, their hero was Ronald Reagan, literally an actor, and someone who owned his entire Hollywood and political career to Lew Wasserman and Sidney Korshak, the later described by Sy Hersh as “the Godfather” of the Jewish mafia who “ordered people hit.”
Some people, including me, will often claim that the Boomers were “selfish” but that is to make something structural into something personal. The Boomers were acting out of their material class interests, and used the rhetoric they learned from the mass media to justify their actions.
Again, it is like a cult; they were brainwashed since youth. Just like anyone raised in an abusive cult, it is too simplistic to think of it as a “moral failure.”
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A lot of them went and got “government jobs” so they could retire at 40 on a plush pension. They smile vacantly and think life is good for them, because they don’t have to work. They are on a permanent vacation.
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We? What we? You got a mouse in your pocket? You sound like you’re leading some kind of invisible parade. Nice speech! I can almost hear the roar of the crowd. You should deliver it in German. Better effect.
As you probably already know, I am of the generation that you are calling for cancellation of. Because I fit in the group that you define as problematic, anything I think has no value. This is according to your post. It bears no argument. I feel like the black guy at a KKK meeting listening to the Grand Wizard speak.
Now, I know for a fact that you are much smarter than I am. I would not dispute that. I would probably be crushed in a debate with you on any subject. But let me suggest that your call to arms has somwhat of a rabid ring to it. Did you have to wipe any spittle from your screen while writing it?
I like your blog and read it daily. But…. if you don’t want me here just say so and I will delete your link from my favorites. I am starting to feel like I wandered into a private party.
Post Script. Nice appearance on Myth of the 20th Century.
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@Jimbobla
This reminds me of the scene in Downton Abbey. The Earl has lost the family fortune due to negligence, so his daughter and son-in-law are doing whatever they can to save the estate. But the Earl get miffed when he realizes that he is no longer in control and his daughter and son-in-law are no longer simply taking orders from him. Really, the idea that some “boomer bashing” is going to cause someone to take their bat and ball and go home seems like something a child would threaten, not a wise elder.
Just last year, Boomer conservatives like Z-Man, RamZPaul, and Sailer were whining about the Covid checks, using Reagan era talking points about how everyone would be “reliant on the government” and that people would get too “lazy.” It is exactly this Boomer conservative attitude that has lost the entire country.
More to the point, the Boomer conservatism of Reaganism stripped mined the entire country and sold off all the productive assets to China. That was a crime of historical proportions. I remember in the late 90’s when “the youth” protested against this vigorously, in one of the largest protests in decades. The Boomer conservatives united to smear these young adults protesting the strip mining of the country.
Then, of course, after Boomer conservative George W. Bush caused an economic crash of historical proportions, the worst since the Great Depression, the Occupy Wall Street protests were greeted by the Boomer conservatives with cries of – what else? – “anti-semitism.”
If you identify as a Boomer conservative, clearly that is your choice. But considering the Boomer conservative track record of near complete failure – going from the most powerful country in the world to nearly a failed state within one generation – I am not at all inclined to take advice from Boomer conservatives.
That you would take such an attitude as personal criticism against you, yourself, personally, seems quite odd.
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Found the Boomer! DAY OF THE PILLOW WHEN
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The boomer bashing is so tiresome. It’s ultimately based in some version of parental alienation. But wallow in it regardless, if it helps you get through your day.
BTW, I thought the Myth of 9/11 episode was a little disappointing. Just “basic bitch” stuff as the kids say.
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@Alfred
> It’s ultimately based in some version of parental alienation.
I’m aware of how Boomers resort to Freudianism to explain things. It doesn’t apply to me, as my parents were not Boomers, nor was I alienated from them. Unlike the Boomers, my parents didn’t divorce.
It pays to remember that Boomers inherited the most powerful country in the world and destroyed it in just one generation. An amazing accomplishment.
> BTW, I thought the Myth of 9/11 episode was a little disappointing. Just “basic bitch” stuff as the kids say.
Ah well, you get what you pay for.
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Found the Boomer! DAY OF THE PILLOW WHEN
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BannedHipster, Like Jimbobla, I am also a Boomer. Perhaps it’s because of circumstances I’m a bit different than many of my peers, I watched little to no TV for nearly 30 years of my life.
I recently was involved in a conversation with 4 other Boomers that left me feeling pretty much disgusted. One of the women stated that two relatives in South Dakota (a younger married couple) had plans for a large family. They already have 3 children and are trying for more. They both were vaccinated early and are now discovering they are both possibly infertile and are devastated. This woman went on to talk about her upcoming trip to Italy and how she made a smart move and got vaccinated so she could make this trip, she’s very happy about this. Can she not make the connection, it’s ok I suppose, but I bet she does make it and only cares about her own enjoyment.
My wife and I watch about an hours worth of TV most evenings. But, the moment I realize I’m watching propaganda instead of entertainment, I’m off to my computer while my wife continues to find enjoyment. She finds my comments when I point out the propaganda to be distracting . I wonder if anyone saw the iconic Obama picture on Jerry Seinfeld’s wall back in the 90s? These people over us are way ahead of us.
I figure a lot of Boomer wealth was inherited from the previous generation, those that went through the Great Depression. A lot of them outright owned their own homes that always went up in value and were left to their children.
I guess I’m pretty different. When friends speak to me about this or that celebrity I have to admit to them I have no idea who they are talking about. I also recently spoke to a 12 year old boy who nearly fell over after I told him I have no cell phone. He really did not believe me.
I really really enjoy your articles and outlook. Thanks.
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@Bill
“Boomer” is a meme, I am actually kind of surprised that anyone, especially those in the “dissident” sphere, would be at all offended by it. Before “Boomer” was a meme, I always used the phrase “TV Generation” because it is the influence of television, not really age, that caused the worst problems. For instance, the most “Boomer Conservative” I know is technically not a Boomer, but ten years younger. But he spent years watching FOX News, Bill O’Reilly, and Sean Hannity; before that he was of course enthralled with film actor Ronald Reagan and later supported politicians like Newt Gingrich. His moral compass? “MLK was a Republican” and, of course, supporting Jews and Israel is the highest moral virtue.
It’s not about age, it’s an attitude. I mentioned above that this class is a classic “petit bourgeois,” identifying with capital, even though they themselves are labor.
> A lot of them outright owned their own homes that always went up in value and were left to their children.
When George W. Bush took office, gold was $280 an ounce. When he left office, it was nearly $1,900. That represents a massive devaluation of the dollar. But not a single “fiscal conservative” complained about it, instead complaining about the Occupy Wall Street protests (which were “anti-semitic.”)
A while ago I spent a lot of time at a very ritzy place in Washington DC, someplace where Republican elites would hang out. I overheard many political conversations, and I was always stunned at how banal they were – it was all about whatever political issue was on television at the time. It was as if their entire lives were mediated by mass electronic media. Whatever fake “scandal” was on TV at the time, that was the most important political issue in the country.
I’m desperately trying to figure out a way around the mass media cycle. I’ve tried to find a way to get access to e.g. Rockefeller Foundation papers, as current events are typically not really “coincidental” but often planned years in advance. The entire Covid Lock Down strategy was discussed a decade ago in the “Lock Step” papers. Infamously, the Project for a New American Century, a rebranding of Israel’s Yinon plan, “predicted” 9/11.
I did not vote for Obama, of course, but I couldn’t believe there were otherwise serious people talking about Obama being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Steve Bannon’s “CCP” nonsense is taken seriously by a lot of conservatives, who simply need a boogey-man because they can’t accept that the enemy is much closer to home. Then, of course, “QAnon” – there are still conservatives pushing that stuff.
It is simpy impossible to overstate how brainwashed people are by TV and the mass media in general. The Internet is hardly a unified thing, and plenty of people “consume content” that is little better than TV. The entire reason I blog, aside from entertaining myself, is to try to find a way out of this. I am certain that neither conservative Republicans, nor the DSA Bernie Bro Democrats, have any worthwhile solutions. Certainly, the “Alt Right,” while seeming to have some promise at first, just turned into an undiscipined clown show.
People talk about secession, but I hardly think that is a viable option (until it is.) But we can cognitively secede – that is why I do this. I’m trying to develop a way to organize our people – what is left of us – to plan for our collective future. The TV Generation just doesn’t really have anything constructive to saw. To their credit, Z-Man and RamZPaul were strongly against the lock-downs, but their “priors” had them out there attacking Covid checks! RamZPaul was waving around his copy of Atlas Shrugged, like a 15 year old. It was astonishing. These people are simply not a solution.
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> A while ago I spent a lot of time at a very ritzy place in Washington DC, someplace where Republican elites would hang out. I overheard many political conversations, and I was always stunned at how banal they were – it was all about whatever political issue was on television at the time. It was as if their entire lives were mediated by mass electronic media. Whatever fake “scandal” was on TV at the time, that was the most important political issue in the country.
It’s downright disgusting.
> I’m desperately trying to figure out a way around the mass media cycle. I’ve tried to find a way to get access to e.g. Rockefeller Foundation papers, as current events are typically not really “coincidental” but often planned years in advance. The entire Covid Lock Down strategy was discussed a decade ago in the “Lock Step” papers. Infamously, the Project for a New American Century, a rebranding of Israel’s Yinon plan, “predicted” 9/11.
Did you figure it out?
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They just have the ability to go public, because they aren’t worried about losing a job. They don’t really represent anyone, and they certainly aren’t leaders. Ramzpaul told WNs to go “f off”, like being snide and arrogant is cool or something. They aren’t smarter than anyone on here, even if they think they are.
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Funny that someone gets “vaccinated for a trip”.. if they thought there was a real pandemic, they wouldn’t be leaving the house. The vax won’t even protect them, plus there are always flues going around. It’s like the people going for “takeout” from a restaurant. The people preparing the food are in closer proximity than any table of other diners would be. But whatever people can’t see, they don’t think about.
Fear was the motivator. They are told they will die from Covid if they don’t get the vax.
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Banned Hipster, For a long time Baby Boomer was just used to describe people born after xxxx and before xxxx. I don’t think anyone minded. Now, it’s just another divider like the other ones, it only helps those who rule us. I look at the Roosh forum and find that there are a lot of people of all ages that are smart and kinda know we’re all being played. The general feeling I get is that the younger guys are turning towards religion, being healthy, and trying to find a wife of good character if not already married. There’s hope but it’s small and providing some tiny comfort to me.
If everyone would toss their cell phone we’d win. The least they could do is deny they have one.
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@Bill
The first time I heard the term “Baby Boomer” was in a long article in the Washington Post about Bill Clinton’s election. Granted, I was just old enough to read the newspaper, but I recall the triumphalist tone, about how the “Baby Boomers” – the “Woodstock Generation” – had now taken power from the “World War II” generation of George H. W. Bush, and how they were going to change everything and do a better job.
Growing up, the media was constantly calling us “Generation X” and talking about how we were lazy, unambitious, “cynical” and wouldn’t accomplish as much as the previous generation, the Baby Boomers. This sort of thing is hardly a new phenomenon – the Boomer conservatives were constantly crapping all over Generation X. I’m again frankly shocked that people would get bent out of shape about it – it is a case of dishing it out but not being able to take it, I guess?
But I’m frankly a bit serious. No, it is not about age, it is about an attitude. Boomer liberals like Bill Clinton and boomer conservatives like George W. Bush – I have no use for either of them. The conservatism during the Obama administration was a dumpster fire off constant horseshit. I’m not a right-winger, never claimed to be a right-winger.
Back on the old Alt Right blogs, both the Boomers and the Millenials would troll Generation X, I’d hardly get bent out of shape about it, nor declare that they were “helping the enemy” – nor was I about to angrily log off because I couldn’t take some political swipes at “my generation.”
Half of my output is comedy and trolling, but we are in a serious situation here. Last year everyone got locked in their homes and the supposed “dissident right” all of a sudden discovered fiscal conservatism again when people were getting unemployment? They were silent when Wall Street got billions in 2009 – they were silent when Donald Trump turned over the money printers to his private banker, Larry Fink of BlackRock, in 2019 to save the repo market … but give the average person a little bit of the newly printed money and the conservates are outraged?
They are not on my side. I’m not a right-winger and not a conservative.
If alienating a few boomers recruits some younger people, frankly that is a trade-off I’m willing to make. But again, it is mostly not about age. It is about the bankrupt ideology of Ronald Reaganism.
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>>>but give the average person a little bit of the newly printed money and the conservates are outraged?
But let’s be honest, at least half of those boomer conservative dads are outraged by a small parameter of things because they believe Fox news. They’ll gladly call endless money printing, as the US government was originally charteted (albeit without intetest) as communism but then be completely ignorant about how this money goes to big banks and plutocrats that hate them and wouldn’t care if they all died.
I think it has more to do with what they hear on TV rather than what they believe. If it isn’t on their favorite show or said by their favorite corporate media pundit, they’ll simply scuff off anyone telling them something new or different.
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A bit like Thomas Kuhn’s insight into paradigm shifts, most people heavily invested in their worldview cannot admit to themselves that they’ve been fooled for their whole life. It’s too painful and they will doggedly refuse to re-examine their premises, whatever the cost.
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@bob saffron
Consider the reaction some have when confronted with just some basic facts about US imperialism.
I remember one conservative telling me, with complete seriousness, that the Iraqi people were glad they were occupied by the US government.
Try telling anyone that World War II was not, in fact, a good heroic war. I still see Vietnam era people complain “well the commies were worse!”
American Exceptionalism is a thing, lots of people really believe that America is somehow different than all other Empires – especially those who grew up watching TV.
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Sadly, I agree. Glass half-full is that successful, and necessarily low-scale organizing, can’t be anything but under-reported by the media/government bloc. If it’s legible it’s getting destroyed. And because it will be widely dispersed, there won’t be a lot of media/government coverage of anything but co-opted or unsuccessful, macroscopic initiatives. People will just have to grasp intuitively that others will be doing likewise but independently.
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>>>the Boomer conservatives will cheer just as loudly as we are killed and tortured as they did when the Arabs and Afghans were.
Could not have said it any better. My relative voted for Bush and Trump and is a self-proclaimed GOPER and conservative, though not in any way pious or religious.
There is no way of getting anything through his thick skull and I mean anything. One time I got into a stupid argument with him about computer viruses, because GOP boomers love to think they’re the best at fixing computers. He literaly was using a fake security app, which was actually a virus to secure his windows computer and whenever you would click the internet exploer a popup would come up with a photo with beastality on it. He told me the viruses are gone and that popup just comes up from time to time and is the remnants of the virus that was deleted. No, the computer had a virus, he used a virus to secure the computer and the hacker evidently liked beastiality. The popup was disgusting but pretty funny at the same time because my uncle was too stupid to think anything of it that maybe something might still be wrong.
Another time, he’d once argued with me that because I fell down the stairs and broke my ankle, it was because I wasn’t drinking pepsi like he does. At first I thought he was joking. “What does that have to do with anything,” I thought. He responsded, ” “Yeah, look at me 69 going on 70 and I’m as healthy as can be and have never broke a bone in my life and I drink and smoke. Just goes to show that eating plants all day like a cow isn’t as healthy as they say.”
I kid you not… this man was serious. I’m not even vegan either. I eat seafood, eggs and chicken. His entire premise was that if I smoked cigs and drank pepsi like him I wouldn’t have broken my ankle, as if these two things are in anyway connected. Again, he heatedly argued with me about it, and I walked away. It was prety funny though.
So take this retarded thinking and apply it to politics.
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