The Absolute Insanity of Trump’s QAnon Club
It is very possible that Trump’s primary motivation is not to restore the Republic or to strengthen the Empire that has replaced it, but to bring down the Pedos. So, guns, border, H1Bs, all that stuff only matter to him if they affect the primary goal of bringing down the Pedo network. Not sure that’s the case, but it begins to look like an elegant theory which explains a lot of apparent inconsistencies.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/11/a-vice-too-far.html
The Pizzagate psychological operation worked like gangbusters.
Trump has been saying for years that “this Epstein thing is going to hurt the Clintons.” Everyone else was ignoring the Epstein thing, covering it up, and Trump was saying once it comes out, it’s going to hurt Clinton.
Of course, the Newhouse family, the Jewish clan that owns Vanity Fair and a number of other publications, who are major important Democratic donors, had already used the “Epstein thing” – and the Ron Burkle thing – against the Clintons way back in 2008.
The Newhouse operation was supporting Barack Obama, and they used their publications to publicize Bill Clinton’s close connections to Jeffrey Epstein – and the close connections of Jeffrey Epstein to the Clinton’s close friend and partner, Donald Trump.
This helped scare away major Democratic fundraisers early in the process, preventing Hillary Clinton from getting enough money and support right up front that she would be the presumptive winner. The Newhouse clan successfully used the Epstein scandal to keep all the big money away from Clinton until Obama had time to seriously challenge her.
Oh, how easily everyone forgets. Clinton and Trump were good buddies for a long time. Trump defended the Clintons from the Republicans. Trump defended the Democrats over health care. Trump even gave the Democrats some “anti-war” cover during the Bush administration.
As the media are fond of pointing out, Trump won “the Evangelical vote” despite being the anti-Evangelical in nearly every way. Trump has been married three times and during the 1980s was literally on the cover of Playboy magazine and his entire public persona is that of the womanizing playboy CEO.
Trump knew that eventually his own close ties to Jeffrey Epstein would come out so he got out in front of the issue and declared everyone was covering it up to defend the Clintons.
“Pizzagate” worked so well because it got the “conspiracy theorists” thinking that Donald Trump was somehow “fighting the pedos in government” because, after all, he was the only one discussing it.
It worked.
Ironically, it worked the same way with the “Alt Right.” The “Alt Right” was supposedly “anti-semitic” yet the Trump campaign had all these internet trolls pushing for Trump – the most Jewish and most Israeli-tied President in US history.
So, Prince Andrew, in his disaster of an interview, literally says he could never have had sex with that trafficked 17 year old Virginia Roberts because he was … taking his young daughters to a pizza party at Pizza Express in Woking at that exact moment 20 years ago.
If that wasn’t a signal – if that wasn’t a dog-whistle – if that wasn’t a message, a threat – I don’t know what is.
Here’s a hypothesis. Guys like Clinton, Andrew, and Trump aren’t pedophiles – they just occasionally have sex with teenage girls. But they know who the real pedophiles are, and if they go down for sex with 15 year old girls, the pedos who have sex with little kids are going down with them.
Then again, we know that Ghislaine Maxwell, the one who actually ran the sex trafficking ring, the brains behind the operation, is literally the daughter of one of the most famous Mossad agents in history and is obviously Mossad herself.
And what do you know, when the Prime Minister of Israel says “jump” Trump asks “how high?” It ain’t Putin that has the goods on Trump – it’s the Israelis.
They say prostitution is the oldest profession. I suspect it’s extremely common for mothers to introduce their own daughters to the profession.
Let’s say a man is a pedophile and “gets caught” having sex with a little girl. How does he buy his way out of it? Perhaps by providing his own daughter to the ring?
Watch carefully what happens to the daughter in the last scene of Kubrick’s “Eyes Wide Shut.”
The idea that Donald Trump is secretly fighting a one-man war against the Democratic Party Pizzagate Pedophile Ring is a fun-house mirror reversal of everything we actually know about Donald Trump and how he – and these people – operate.
From what we now know about how Trump’s “fixer” Michael Cohen was blackmailing Jerry Falwell Jr. with his wife pornographic pictures, and what we now know about how Trump’s close and personal friend David Pecker of the National Enquirer was trying to blackmail Amazon’s CEO Jeff Bezos with his “dick pics” in order to get Bezos to stop his newspaper Washington Post from printing negative stories about Trump …
… it sure looks like it’s Trump and his friends that have been doing the sexual blackmail.
And it seems these things tend towards mutual blackmail.
After all, Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself while he was under the jurisdiction of the Trump administration’s Attorney General William Barr.
Trump nominated Mike Acosta, who was the “fixer” for Epstein’s sweetheart deal at the federal level.
See, Trump is playing 3-D chess – against you.
Banned Hipster 
Ivanka’s poses are so obviously choreographed by dad, it’s grotesque. Telling that the adult Ivanka appears awkward or diffident in that air-kiss with her President.
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Hipster… I´m on board with a lot of your positions but here… I feel that you get caught up in an overcomplicated speculation… like… yeah it´s always the exact opposite of what it seems, ha!, that will fool them… and of-course it is in reality again the opposite becaue the other has already calculated that it would be the opposite… and so on.
Why, hipster: was Epstein arrested in the first place? Into what scenario, what argumentation, does that fit? Nobody has an explanation for that. Of-course… it can´t be because, as Voxday says, Trump is about bringing down the pedo-network, right?
I don´t claim to know anything here myself… but I think that your argumentation becomes random here.
Admittedly… “Q” as an explanation also hard to believe. I guess the “Q” line of argumentation would be: Trump has been a good-guy infiltrator of the swamp all along. I ask you: is it impossible? I´m naive enough to think / hope that it´s not impossible (which does not say that it is that).
Also… the “pedo”-stuff isn´t sexual, it´s purely satanistic (how many people are there who are aroused by prepubescent girls? Coincidently, a wide majority of all top caste people… yeah right).
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@Peter
It’s not ME that is caught up in “overcomplicated speculation” – it’s the Trump fans and especially the QAnon fantasists. There is no “speculation” that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer was blackmailing Jerry Falwell Jr. into supporting Trump – that’s on the public record. It’s not “overcomplicated speculation” that Donald Trump’s personal friend and major supporter David Pecker was attempting to blackmail Jeff Bezos – that’s on the public record.
It’s Trump fans and their laughable fantasies that Trump is playing “4-D Chess” that is the “overcomplicated speculation.”
It’s astonishing how you have literally reversed reality to attack me as speculating to defend the Trump fans and QAnons who are the ones actually doing the overcomplicated speculation.
Granted, there are some throwaway lines about “the real pedos” but I thought that was pretty obviously somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
He was arrested in the first place under the George W. Bush administration, in 2008.
Why was he arrested the second time? Because after nearly a decade of internet rumor-mongering and NYC tabloid exposes about him, the case went mainstream when Julie K. Brown of the Miami Herald wrote her series of articles about him, which was triggered by Trump nominated Acosta to Labor Secretary. Brown, and the rest of the media, clearly wanted to tie Trump to the Epstein/Maxwell ring – which they did rather successfully, because Trump’s been friends with Epstein for a long, long time, and in fact, Trump’s own business network was involved in similar activities.
I again note that Epstein was under the jurisdiction of Trump appointed Barr when he “committed suicide.” Has Barr done anything but cover-up the details of the Epstein case? If Trump and Barr were really interested in this, they could run the media every day by simply talking about what’s already on the public record.
Have they done that? No, they have done the exact opposite. What is Barr most famous for? Covering up the Iran-Contra scandal, which included many of Trump’s current friends and appointees, in fact.
It’s Trump fans and QAnons that are doing the “overcomplicated speculation” not me.
This is child-like naivete. Trump didn’t all of a sudden appear in 2016. He’s been a famous celebrity for my entire life. His acknowledged mentor was Roy Cohn, a notorious sexual blackmailer. Trump’s a long time friend of Epstein, Maxwell, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Yet you want to ignore reality, history, and facts in order to believe in some fairy tale of “good, heroic Trump” vs. “bad pedo Democrats?”
Come on.
Not many, but they certainly exist, and it is sexual. It is biological. This is very well documented. Of course I don’t believe for a second that “a wide majority of all top caste people” are, of course not. But clearly some are – like conservative Republican Dennis Hastert, although he liked little boys. That’s not “overcomplicated speculation” – he was convicted and sent to prison.
So now you want to move away from the realm of reality, facts, documentation, convictions, biology, and talk about … “satanism.”
Yet you accuse ME of “overcomplicated speculation?”
Why not just deal with the reality that is right in front of everyone’s faces? No need to bring in ghosts, goblins and demons.
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I´m not a Trump-apologist, I see that he is president for the jews and has done much less for Whites than he could. And we mustn´t hope that he saves us but keep doing all pro-White activities anyways. But.. as you know… there´s also the view that he tries to maneuver in the mine-field… the case of the cruise missiles to Syria: pretend-attack, no actual harm. Suleimani: no Iran-war at all. ISIS gone, Assad reestablished: could there be conceded some 3D chess? Fucking the swamp while pretending to be a bumbling buffoon?
Connections to NY jet-set… so what… it proves nothing, it´s purely business-related, not personal, it is compatible with a good-guy infiltrator… however naive such a view may be, I´m all aware of that. Because of all these contradictions… it´s for that reason that I find voxday´s take not that bad… that Trump may simply try to maneuver somehow through the swamp while actually only pursuing one goal, to kill the pedo-cycles. Speculation: if all “their” power is based on the pedo thing: killing the pedo-thing equals killing them. Laser-sharp focus on one vital target zone?
One thought regarding Epstein, irrespective of who was when in charge with what: why did Epstein come back to the USA? See… only when he has reason to assume to NOT be arrested. So somehow this top guy of the global criminal network could be fooled? Doesn´t that ring 3D chess?
Re satanism: mainly, I mean to say, it is not for sexual purposes. For what else purposes, that´s just the next question… like, for you. Assuming it´s not sexual: WHY then is it done? Please don´t be naive: you will know about special altered states of consciousness, that´s not “ghosts”. These rituals, these practises, will have to do with something like that, i.e. altered states of consciousness. I don´t know about it but that´s what I assume… also based on the views of others whose opinion in such questions I respect. Don´t call it over-complicted, it´s part of reality, just not a very usual part, and we need to be open to such if there should be reason to assume that it is relevant.
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@Peter
Do you have any evidence – at all – that suggests Trump is a “good guy infiltrator?”
Can you point to a SINGLE THING, before Trump ran for President, that indicates he was a “good guy infiltrator?”
Does this sound like a man who is going to “take down the pedos?”
https://nypost.com/2016/10/12/former-teen-beauty-queens-say-trump-barged-into-their-dressing-room/
How about this? Does this sound like a man who is really concerned with “fighting degeneracy” and the sexualization of children?
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/donald-and-ivanka-trump-moments-that-totally-weird-us-out.html/
NO. This is simple mystification and superstition and ridiculous conspiracy culture nonsense. What next, adrenochrome?
You want to know the “altered states of consciousness” that are used to sexually manipulate women?
It’s called “drugs and alcohol.”
Do you know why they do stuff like “spirit cooking?” It’s to scare the rubes into thinking they have “special powers.” Their only “special power” is money.
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Hipster:
you? of all people hold against Trump natural horniness? Pedo is PREpubescent…. everybody is attracted to YOUNG chicks which is not PREPUBESCENT girls. It is completely irrelevant if he talks about his “daughter”, it says nothing, it means nothing… it´s a bit off the mark and nothing more, forget it (it´s actually just honest, and a bit risqué).
Satanism: my starting point was: if, or make that, as, obviously, it is not sexual, so what else is it. You haven´t answered that (also not why Epstein came back to the USA).
I´m very contented to see everything in the paradigm of power, i.e. money. IT IS NOT ME who, also and additionally, pracctises satanic rituals. Ask them why they do it, why they seem to think that it helps their prospects.
The effort to prevent pedo… I repeat: CHILDREN, not teen sex girls… the effort to prevent pedo crime from being investigated is beyond anything. It is their uttermost important thing, in their strategy. I think it´s obvious. Strangely… you seem to have many things all clear, and I fully agree and consider it solidly logically argued… but with this aspect of pedo = prepubescent children… you appear closed-minded.
It´s not a very important point to me. It is entirely my view that they wield their power through incredibly tight and intense organisation, skills, intelligence, malignance, criminality, yes mainly in finance, and of-course all other key areas, mainly media.
But still is it, IMO, apparent for every observer, that there is something of extreme importance in the area of pedo-criminality and satanism: and that may well be the target of Trump´s activities.
Can I point to anything that would indicate Trump as good-guy infiltrator: his comments on 911 right when it happenend, e.g.. Also many common-sense takes on many topics. He´s not a jew. His supreme court appointments not bad. Probably more can be found.
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@Peter
Show me any reason to believe that Trump is “going after the pedos.”
Literally, just one reason.
Because QAnon and Trump fans keep making up these elaborate “4-D Chess” scenarios with not a single bit of evidence whatsoever.
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@Peter
Oh, and by the way, most of Epstein’s victims that we know of were not prepubescent, but postpubescent teenagers. Most were the same age as the Miss Teen USA contestants that Trump liked to watch getting undressed.
So, again, what possible reason is there to believe that Trump is “going after the pedos” or even Mossad sex trafficking blackmail rings?
Trump appointed Acosta and his appointed Barr that hasn’t even brought charges against Ghislaine Maxwell, despite plenty of evidence. Why isn’t the Trump administration prosecuting Ghislaine Maxwell and her other associates?
Barr is doing nothing but covering it up.
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Hipster, I´m not an expert and don´t have many facts. Yes, true, Barr all covering up, not prosecuting etc etc. I would put that into the “navigate the swamp” department: in this shark pool, you only have few shots, choose them wisely (spend your political capital wisely), i.e. let the swamp do all they want as long as you can shoot down the center of their organisation, assuming that is the pedo cult (probably for blackmailing purposes, besides unclear satanic aspects).
I guess there are facts regarding prosecuting pedos, I think there are way more indictments than before. I´m quite sure to have heard of a lot of indictments and arrests. Also some new laws regarding human trafficking are considered as measures against pedo criminality… Again, not an expert…
I, frankly, don´t give much of a shit if people play with teenage girls; it´s not great… but not important. I´m talking about satanic rituals with children. These oligarch circles are all about it. I don´t care if Epstein, or Trump, for that matter, is photographed with teen sex playthings. Nobody cares about that.
So for the moment I have nothing more to contribute. You can look yourself into the subject, I guess a lot can be found (I think youtuber amazingpolly has a lot on that subject… I certainly can´t reproduce all the details that I come across here and there).
While at it: what about the view that Trump is only pretending to do the work of the deep state… but actually only fires blanks, cf. Syria?
P.S. you probably know, regarding your wordpress site, that the start page loads very slowly, the menu doesn´t work, and importantly, the email notification doesn´t work
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@Peter
I’m sorry, this is all just fantasy. Consider that Barr was Attorney General under Reagan and Bush and he was the main cover-up artist for Iran-Contra – Iran-Contra included many of the people involved in the Epstein ring, including Les Wexner.
So Barr already covered for these people once, what possible reason to think he’s all of a sudden a “good guy” after spending his entire career as a “bad guy?”
If you think pimping out white American teenage girls as sex slaves to the wealthy elites of the world is “not important” – than you are worthless. Go back to playing video games.
That “view” is based on fantasy and requires you to ignore the fact that Trump has spent his entire life working for “The Deep State” going back to Roy Cohn and the Atlantic City casino money laundering he fronted for.
Trump didn’t just magically appear in 2016.
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“Do you know why they do stuff like “spirit cooking?” It’s to scare the rubes into thinking they have “special powers.” Their only “special power” is money.”
Bingo.
“If you think pimping out white American teenage girls as sex slaves to the wealthy elites of the world is “not important” – than you are worthless.”
This.
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